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- IETF STEERING GROUP (IESG)
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- REPORT FROM THE IETF MEETING
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- January 4th, 1993
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- Reported by: Greg Vaudreuil, IESG Secretary
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- This report contains IESG meeting notes, positions and action items.
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- These minutes were compiled by the IETF Secretariat which is supported
- by the National Science Foundation under Grant No. NCR 8820945.
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- For more information please contact the IESG Secretary.
- iesg-secretary@cnri.reston.va.us.
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- ATTENDEES
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- Borman, David / Cray Research
- Crocker, Steve / TIS
- Coya, Steve / CNRI
- Davin, Chuck / Bellcore
- Gross, Philip / ANS
- Hinden, Robert / SUN
- Hobby, Russ / UC-DAVIS
- Huizer, Erik / SURFnet
- Knowles, Stev / FTP Software
- Piscitello, Dave/ Bellcore
- Vaudreuil, Greg / CNRI
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- Regrets
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- Almquist, Philip / Consultant
- Chapin, Lyman / BBN
- Crocker, Dave / TBO
- Reynolds, Joyce / ISI
- Stockman, Bernard / SUNET/NORDUnet
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- AGENDA
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- 1) Administrivia
- o Approval of the Minutes
- - December 21st
- o Teleconference Meeting Times
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- 2) Protocol Actions
- o PEM
- o SMTP Extensions
- o DS1 MIB
- o DS3 MIB
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- 3) Technical Management Issues
- o IP Addressing Guidelines
- o SNMP Security
- o Policy Statements
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- 4) RFC Editor Actions
- o RIP (Wide Area Routing with RIP)
- o Traceroute
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- 5) Working Group Actions
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- o IP Security (ipsec)
- o SIP (sip)
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- MINUTES
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- 1) Administrivia
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- o Minutes
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- The IESG had several comments on the Minutes of December 21st. These
- minutes were held over for approval until the next teleconference.
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- o Teleconference Meeting Times
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- The IESG meetings have been rescheduled for 11:30 ET to ease
- dinnertime inconvenience and facilitate more quality family time for
- the growing families of IESG members in the ET+6 timezone. Because
- many ET cafeterias are open only during the teleconference, this will
- slightly ease grouchiness of the several ET participants. It is
- understood that all ET-3 participants rise early and would welcome
- stimulating breakfast conversation.
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- 2) Protocol Actions
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- o PEM
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- The letter from RSA pledging to make licenses available to all on a
- non-discriminatory basis was forwarded to the IESG. PEM is the first
- protocol the IESG has been asked to standardize which a key
- technology is subject to licensing. Further, the technology is
- subject to restrictive export controls. Questions remain in the IESG
- about how these issues will impact availability and utility of the
- protocol.
-
- ACTION: SCrocker -- Write text for the protocol action announcement
- addressing the patent and export issues.
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- o SMTP Extensions
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- The SMTP Extensions Working Group has produced a revised version of
- the protocol initially sent to the IESG. These changes were reviewed
- by the IESG and approved. Comments on the informational transition
- document were raised by Keld Simonsen. The IESG discussed these
- comments which were earlier raised wrt to the MIME protocol and did
- not feel they needed to be further discussed.
-
- ACTION: Hobby -- Send a response to Keld Simonsen addressing his
- comments on the ESMTP transitional document.
-
- ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Send a draft protocol action and ballot to the
- IESG for approval.
-
- o DS3 MIB and DS1 MIB
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- RFC 1232 and RFC 1233 contain a fundamental error: many objects are
- encoded as counters that must be encoded as integers or gauges. The
- magnitude of the change required is sufficient that virtually every
- object changed. Corrected documentation was submitted to the IESG.
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- ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Send a Protocol Action and Ballot to the IESG for
- approval.
-
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- 3) Technical Management
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- o IP Addressing Guidelines
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- Discussion was opened with the authors of the IP addressing
- guidelines about the IESG intention to make this document an
- Informational document. The authors disagreed with this approach
- preferring to use the approach used with the NSAP addressing
- guidelines, Proposed Standard. The IESG discussed the document and
- noted that the guidelines are clearly not protocols in the sense of
- something that is implemented to be interoperable. The guidelines do
- not improve interoperability, although they do increase efficiency,
- but they are an important operational coordination issue.
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- IP addressing guidelines are a integral part of CIDR. It was
- pointed out that CIDR itself is not a standards track protocol
- although specific protocols needed to implement it are such as
- BGP4.
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- It has become clear to the IESG that Proposed Standard is not the
- right designation for these operational guidelines but a
- document subseries for this class of documents has not yet been
- created. A proposal for Statements of Policy (SOP) subseries similar
- to the OG series the IAB had earlier discussed was suggested by the
- authors via an Internet-Draft.
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- While proposed standard was not the approach favored by the IESG, it
- was not able to address the full implications of making this document
- informational.
-
- ACTION: Gross -- Discuss with the IANA, the FEPG, IEPG, and the authors
- of the IP Addressing Guidelines document the implications of making
- document an Informational document.
-
- o SNMP Security
-
- There is a continuing technical disagreement in the SNMP Security
- Working Group which does not seem to be reaching closure.
- Similarities between this controversy and the SMTP Extensions
- gridlock were noted and the Network Management Area Director
- requested that the IESG serve as a moderator. The IESG briefly
- discussed the situation and requested that the Security Area Director
- and the Network Management Area Director investigate and report back
- to the IESG.
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- ACTION: Davin and SCrocker -- Investigate the current disagreements in
- the SNMP Security Working Group and report back to the IESG.
-
- o Operational Guidelines
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- Detailed discussion on an Operational Guidelines (OG) subseries was
- deferred until the next teleconference.
-
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- 4) RFC Editor Actions
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- o Routing over Demand Circuits on Wide Area Networks - RIP.
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- This document was sent to the RFC Editor as Proposed Standard. It
- was referred to the IESG for assignment to a Working Group. This has
- not yet been done.
-
- ACTION: Hinden -- Assign the Routing over Demand Circuits - RIP to a
- IETF Working Group to be reviewed prior to submission as a Proposed
- Standard.
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- ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Send a note to Jon Postel acknowledging receipt of
- this document.
-
- o Traceroute
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- The IESG has reviewed the Traceroute document submitted as a
- Experimental Protocol. The IESG sent extensive technical comments
- to the RFC editor. The IESG is willing to have this published as an
- Experimental Protocol provided the title is changed to reduce
- confusion with the current traceroute utility.
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- ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Send a note to the RFC Editor expressing the IESG
- feedback on the traceroute document.
-
-
- 5) Working Group Actions
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- o IP Security
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- No progress to report.
-
- o SIP
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- The SIP Working Group charter was held up pending review of several
- milestones which appeared over-aggressive. The delivery dates have
- passed and the IESG refined the milestones for January.
-
- ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Announce the formation of the SIP Working Group.
-
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- APPENDIX -- Summary of Action Items
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- ACTION: SCrocker -- Write text for the protocol action announcement
- addressing the patent and export issues.
-
- ACTION: Hobby -- Send a response to Keld Simonsen addressing his
- comments on the ESMTP transitional document.
-
- ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Send a draft protocol action and ballot to the
- IESG for approval.
-
- ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Send a Protocol Action and Ballot to the IESG for
- approval.
-
- ACTION: Gross -- Discuss with the IANA, the FEPG, IEPG, and the authors
- of the IP Addressing Guidelines document the implications of making
- document an Informational document.
-
- ACTION: Davin and SCrocker -- Investigate the current disagreements in
- the SNMP Security Working Group and report back to the IESG.
-
- ACTION: Hinden -- Assign the Routing over Demand Circuits - RIP to a
- IETF Working Group to be reviewed prior to submission as a Proposed
- Standard.
-
- ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Send a note to Jon Postel acknowledging receipt of
- this document.
-
- ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Send a note to the RFC Editor expressing the IESG
- feedback on the traceroute document.
-
- ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Announce the formation of the SIP Working Group.
-